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I would like to just pop a tent, make a fire and cook some food, and go fishing and relax for a weekend.. any ideas around northern NJ/eastern PA? Thanks!
Answer
The following page on the NJ DEP website lists all the state parks and forests with camping. Primitive camping (e.g., without established site boundaries and masses of other people) is only available at Wharton State Forest in the Pine Barrens. There are plenty of rivers, creeks, ponds and lakes in the Pine Barrens, but fishing is a challenge because of the dark tea-colored waters (a result of the high iron content in the soil -- the Pine Barrens was a major producer of iron in the early 1800's.
Other state parks and forests are also very nice. If you're limited to Northern NJ, Stokes is another favorite camping location, but they lack the seclusion available out in the primitive sites at Wharton.
There are over 100 privately-owned commercial campgrounds in NJ, but they have little extra to offer in terms of camping basics, unless you want electric, water and sewer hook-ups, a swimming pool, game room, real bathrooms with hot water and laundry facilities, oh, and don't forget the accompanying crowds, blaring musing, screaming kids, racing golf carts and drunken arguments.
There is no legal dispersed camping in NJ except for along the Appalachian Trail, and even here camping is strictly regulated.
Ironically, though I've done lots of camping in PA and NY it was all on private land (with permission, of course), or at one of the traditional family camping areas.
The following page on the NJ DEP website lists all the state parks and forests with camping. Primitive camping (e.g., without established site boundaries and masses of other people) is only available at Wharton State Forest in the Pine Barrens. There are plenty of rivers, creeks, ponds and lakes in the Pine Barrens, but fishing is a challenge because of the dark tea-colored waters (a result of the high iron content in the soil -- the Pine Barrens was a major producer of iron in the early 1800's.
Other state parks and forests are also very nice. If you're limited to Northern NJ, Stokes is another favorite camping location, but they lack the seclusion available out in the primitive sites at Wharton.
There are over 100 privately-owned commercial campgrounds in NJ, but they have little extra to offer in terms of camping basics, unless you want electric, water and sewer hook-ups, a swimming pool, game room, real bathrooms with hot water and laundry facilities, oh, and don't forget the accompanying crowds, blaring musing, screaming kids, racing golf carts and drunken arguments.
There is no legal dispersed camping in NJ except for along the Appalachian Trail, and even here camping is strictly regulated.
Ironically, though I've done lots of camping in PA and NY it was all on private land (with permission, of course), or at one of the traditional family camping areas.
Where would be a good place to wild camp near Ennerdale in the Lake District?
NickO
Hi, thanks for reading!
I will be walking across the Lake District via the Wainwright coast to coast walk. On the first night I am hoping to wild camp around Ennerdale.
Does anyone have any good suggestions for the area? It must be close to Ennerdale, preferably on the Eastern side, so we have a headstart in the morning. I would especially like any suggestions that overlook the lake.
All advice appreciated!
Answer
Depends on the time and the inclination. Where you rest and sleep is where you decide to at the time on looking at the area around you or finding suddenly that you've just had enough for the day and this place will do me a treat for the night.
Plans are not often stuck to on a walk. In good weather and with sufficient interest to explore, a hundred different locations around the eastern side of Ennerdale might present themselves as being the perfect spot to camp, cook, gaze with ease and calm at the fading of the light, and sleep.
A few paces from the path or a hundred there are endless places where can get a good view of the lake but where you stay is really determined at the time when you finally get there and look around.
A bit upstairs is fine for getting a better view but whether you feel like it at the time or whether you just plonk down the bag and say...I'm staying right here...is not known till you're there. Conditions change. You may have had an easy time in cool weather, making good progress, or boiled away in heavy heat and got there whacked.
No two walks are the same.
You may decide to walk beside Ennerdale lake and camp at the side of the river Liza below Starling Dodd or Red Pike which is a lovely option and very scenic but away from the lake, or walk the tops or half way up and see the lake from above and get a better view across it, get into a sheltered hollow or beside a sheltering craggy outcrop for the night and enjoy breakfast while looking down across the water instead of being beside it.
If you're taking a low level route of course that requires a climb which might not be a happy thought at the time, or may be.
Where the River Liza leaves the lake there is plenty of space but a it's a bit midgey so a bit away from the water suits most people better.
Further along from the lake the river provides some good sheltered locations with very pretty scenery
There are coils you can buy which you support on a pin sticking up from a base and set light to. They smoulder for hours, releasing insect repellent fumes. Commonly called mosquito coils, they can be a good help in enjoying a meal outdoors without being plagued by the midges that all waterside locations are full of in the evenings Millets and Cotswold outdoors have them, and several shops in Whitehaven.
Further east than Ennerdale lake you might decide that the southern shore of Buttermere would be a good resting place, as it has been for me a few times, a little up the slope to avoid the midges beside the water and get a good view across it, or simply rest there for a meal and get some miles done quickly through the Honister pass on an easy road instead of the upper path and sleep at Seatoller or even Stonethwaite if you are feeling athletic enough to do the distance, sleeping either in the tent or in a B&B with the possibility of a warm shower instead of the cold waters of a stream to wash in, and taking advantage of a sink in the bathroom to wash some clothes.
A small bag or plastic container of washing powder or concentrated wash liquid is a handy thing to take with you on a walk of a few days.
A shower of sorts is also available at Black Sail youth hostel, the remotest in England, a few miles east of the lake beneath Haystacks, and at High Gillerthwaite hostel a little beyond the bridge over the Liza just past the eastern edge of the lake, with good camping spots around there.
On a long day's walking and with a good stride it's possible to get beyond Stonethwaite for the first night but what a waste of missing things on the way.
And what a pain for the legs next morning, on getting out of the tent and finding the legs are two wobbly stiff broomsticks that don't go where you want them to.
In summer the days are long and two walking times, morning and late afternoon/evening with a rest between them during the hotter part of the day for local sightseeing and enjoyment so you're not just rushing past everywhere, is a common way to do a walk.
Ennerdale itself could take as long as the entire available time for the walk and not be totally explored from all angles and is a particularly pleasant place to stop, cook a meal, and simply enjoy being there.
Have a good time.
Depends on the time and the inclination. Where you rest and sleep is where you decide to at the time on looking at the area around you or finding suddenly that you've just had enough for the day and this place will do me a treat for the night.
Plans are not often stuck to on a walk. In good weather and with sufficient interest to explore, a hundred different locations around the eastern side of Ennerdale might present themselves as being the perfect spot to camp, cook, gaze with ease and calm at the fading of the light, and sleep.
A few paces from the path or a hundred there are endless places where can get a good view of the lake but where you stay is really determined at the time when you finally get there and look around.
A bit upstairs is fine for getting a better view but whether you feel like it at the time or whether you just plonk down the bag and say...I'm staying right here...is not known till you're there. Conditions change. You may have had an easy time in cool weather, making good progress, or boiled away in heavy heat and got there whacked.
No two walks are the same.
You may decide to walk beside Ennerdale lake and camp at the side of the river Liza below Starling Dodd or Red Pike which is a lovely option and very scenic but away from the lake, or walk the tops or half way up and see the lake from above and get a better view across it, get into a sheltered hollow or beside a sheltering craggy outcrop for the night and enjoy breakfast while looking down across the water instead of being beside it.
If you're taking a low level route of course that requires a climb which might not be a happy thought at the time, or may be.
Where the River Liza leaves the lake there is plenty of space but a it's a bit midgey so a bit away from the water suits most people better.
Further along from the lake the river provides some good sheltered locations with very pretty scenery
There are coils you can buy which you support on a pin sticking up from a base and set light to. They smoulder for hours, releasing insect repellent fumes. Commonly called mosquito coils, they can be a good help in enjoying a meal outdoors without being plagued by the midges that all waterside locations are full of in the evenings Millets and Cotswold outdoors have them, and several shops in Whitehaven.
Further east than Ennerdale lake you might decide that the southern shore of Buttermere would be a good resting place, as it has been for me a few times, a little up the slope to avoid the midges beside the water and get a good view across it, or simply rest there for a meal and get some miles done quickly through the Honister pass on an easy road instead of the upper path and sleep at Seatoller or even Stonethwaite if you are feeling athletic enough to do the distance, sleeping either in the tent or in a B&B with the possibility of a warm shower instead of the cold waters of a stream to wash in, and taking advantage of a sink in the bathroom to wash some clothes.
A small bag or plastic container of washing powder or concentrated wash liquid is a handy thing to take with you on a walk of a few days.
A shower of sorts is also available at Black Sail youth hostel, the remotest in England, a few miles east of the lake beneath Haystacks, and at High Gillerthwaite hostel a little beyond the bridge over the Liza just past the eastern edge of the lake, with good camping spots around there.
On a long day's walking and with a good stride it's possible to get beyond Stonethwaite for the first night but what a waste of missing things on the way.
And what a pain for the legs next morning, on getting out of the tent and finding the legs are two wobbly stiff broomsticks that don't go where you want them to.
In summer the days are long and two walking times, morning and late afternoon/evening with a rest between them during the hotter part of the day for local sightseeing and enjoyment so you're not just rushing past everywhere, is a common way to do a walk.
Ennerdale itself could take as long as the entire available time for the walk and not be totally explored from all angles and is a particularly pleasant place to stop, cook a meal, and simply enjoy being there.
Have a good time.
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