Isaiah
What would I need and how to stay out of site? I have list my job and I need advice on how to camp all year. trying to save $by doing this.
Answer
I've seen the best tents money can buy blown into the night off mountains.
There are rags of those that were torn apart when ground placement held
on some of my uphill climb. I've had a tent in-hand drag me over icy stone.
I suggest a mid-level tent like Coleman, cheap, well-made. Dome with rain
fly, window flaps, with zippered mesh bug protection and portal closures.
You absolutely must apply seam sealant on all exposed interior stitching.
Stand tent turned inside out to seam seal if possible as you can't sleep
with the fire hazard and toxic odor. When dry sealant is your best friend.
Avoid fouling zipper teeth with sealant. Have extra sealer for repair. Duct
tape also for short-term patching; cold isn't duct tape friendly. Two areas are
likely to tear first: 1. Tent floor. Tent should be on a hillside but level, with
tarp under floor, and layers of cardboard inside tent over flooring for insulation.
Expect deterioration of floor cardboard and renew if damp or issues arise.
2. Mesh, it tears easily, and you need to respect that. You want room for
stuff. Higher tents have contain more air to warm (heat rises and bleeds fast),
there's wind resistence, so you need a shed shelter over it with sides facing
an expected weather frontage. Logs in a three side layer work and better hold
exterior tarp. It won't have to be waterproof but it must blunt wind chill / speed.
Digging into hillside requires wall support to avoid untimely burial. Log steps
with hammered pegs work. Double weather walls and roofing need vented air
space to vent moisture. Tents are designed as temporary shelter. You'd better
be filling sandbags to build better. Build around your tent. Work around the
braced exterior of stacked log grid. Focus on foot diameter logs, hand saw,
saw file, file oil, rags, hand winch, nylon sling lengths for log tow and hoist.
Tree nails. Claw hammer. Shovel. You won't have something. Find ruins
you can salvage. Dead cars to strip. You want a location with water that if
frozen you can still access. A USA hermit was arrested in 2013 and he
said that after a half-lifetime of being totally self-sufficient the only thing left
of personal property were prescription eye-glasses. Don't be a hermit. Using
Google Earth it wasn't hard to find a limestone grotto for boys in the UK to
sleep in and they were half-planet distant. Maybe you can do better in a chair.
I've seen the best tents money can buy blown into the night off mountains.
There are rags of those that were torn apart when ground placement held
on some of my uphill climb. I've had a tent in-hand drag me over icy stone.
I suggest a mid-level tent like Coleman, cheap, well-made. Dome with rain
fly, window flaps, with zippered mesh bug protection and portal closures.
You absolutely must apply seam sealant on all exposed interior stitching.
Stand tent turned inside out to seam seal if possible as you can't sleep
with the fire hazard and toxic odor. When dry sealant is your best friend.
Avoid fouling zipper teeth with sealant. Have extra sealer for repair. Duct
tape also for short-term patching; cold isn't duct tape friendly. Two areas are
likely to tear first: 1. Tent floor. Tent should be on a hillside but level, with
tarp under floor, and layers of cardboard inside tent over flooring for insulation.
Expect deterioration of floor cardboard and renew if damp or issues arise.
2. Mesh, it tears easily, and you need to respect that. You want room for
stuff. Higher tents have contain more air to warm (heat rises and bleeds fast),
there's wind resistence, so you need a shed shelter over it with sides facing
an expected weather frontage. Logs in a three side layer work and better hold
exterior tarp. It won't have to be waterproof but it must blunt wind chill / speed.
Digging into hillside requires wall support to avoid untimely burial. Log steps
with hammered pegs work. Double weather walls and roofing need vented air
space to vent moisture. Tents are designed as temporary shelter. You'd better
be filling sandbags to build better. Build around your tent. Work around the
braced exterior of stacked log grid. Focus on foot diameter logs, hand saw,
saw file, file oil, rags, hand winch, nylon sling lengths for log tow and hoist.
Tree nails. Claw hammer. Shovel. You won't have something. Find ruins
you can salvage. Dead cars to strip. You want a location with water that if
frozen you can still access. A USA hermit was arrested in 2013 and he
said that after a half-lifetime of being totally self-sufficient the only thing left
of personal property were prescription eye-glasses. Don't be a hermit. Using
Google Earth it wasn't hard to find a limestone grotto for boys in the UK to
sleep in and they were half-planet distant. Maybe you can do better in a chair.
Winter camping in Manitoba?
Soccergirl
I want to go camping in Manitoba because that's the closest Canadian province to me hence it would be the cheapest to drive to. Where is a good place I can go camping that is open late October through the winter? I don't want it to be an extreme experience in the dead of winter.. It's more like fall camping. I still want to sleep in a tent and be close to civilization. However, most of the parks in Manitoba close mid October at the latest. Help!!
Answer
Unless you already live IN Canada, you might find it easier to accomplish your winter camping goals in one of the states bordering Canada such as Montana or Idaho. In fact, many, if not MOST of the experiences you can anticipate in Manitoba can be equaled just about anywhere along the US/Canada border in states all the way from New York west to Idaho, etc. The advantage you have in the US is that state and federal forest lands do not close down for the winter. You can still open camp anywhere the forest service roads may take you. Certain rules may still apply though, such as not being allowed to stay on one site longer than 2 weeks at a time before having to move on to another location on down the road or trail. You will be bothered less in the National Forest in the USA than you will as an American citizen (assuming that you are) camping in Canada for any extended length of time. And from experience, I can assure you that "WINTER CAMPING" is NOT quite the walk in the park you might expect it to be. It can be VERY demanding, severe, and extremely life threatening. If you go unprepared mentally, physically, and equipment-wise, you are almost doomed to sure failure almost from the get go. It takes a special person and a "seasoned": outdoors person to pull off winter camping successfully. You might experiment for a season (or two) with a few weekend or week long camp outs before committing to an extended stay. It could save you a lot of time, a LOT of wasted effort and expense, and MAYBE even save you your life. If you go, GO PREPARED! Stay safe! Good luck.
Unless you already live IN Canada, you might find it easier to accomplish your winter camping goals in one of the states bordering Canada such as Montana or Idaho. In fact, many, if not MOST of the experiences you can anticipate in Manitoba can be equaled just about anywhere along the US/Canada border in states all the way from New York west to Idaho, etc. The advantage you have in the US is that state and federal forest lands do not close down for the winter. You can still open camp anywhere the forest service roads may take you. Certain rules may still apply though, such as not being allowed to stay on one site longer than 2 weeks at a time before having to move on to another location on down the road or trail. You will be bothered less in the National Forest in the USA than you will as an American citizen (assuming that you are) camping in Canada for any extended length of time. And from experience, I can assure you that "WINTER CAMPING" is NOT quite the walk in the park you might expect it to be. It can be VERY demanding, severe, and extremely life threatening. If you go unprepared mentally, physically, and equipment-wise, you are almost doomed to sure failure almost from the get go. It takes a special person and a "seasoned": outdoors person to pull off winter camping successfully. You might experiment for a season (or two) with a few weekend or week long camp outs before committing to an extended stay. It could save you a lot of time, a LOT of wasted effort and expense, and MAYBE even save you your life. If you go, GO PREPARED! Stay safe! Good luck.
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