Isaiah
What would I need and how to stay out of site? I have list my job and I need advice on how to camp all year. trying to save $by doing this.
Answer
I've seen the best tents money can buy blown into the night off mountains.
There are rags of those that were torn apart when ground placement held
on some of my uphill climb. I've had a tent in-hand drag me over icy stone.
I suggest a mid-level tent like Coleman, cheap, well-made. Dome with rain
fly, window flaps, with zippered mesh bug protection and portal closures.
You absolutely must apply seam sealant on all exposed interior stitching.
Stand tent turned inside out to seam seal if possible as you can't sleep
with the fire hazard and toxic odor. When dry sealant is your best friend.
Avoid fouling zipper teeth with sealant. Have extra sealer for repair. Duct
tape also for short-term patching; cold isn't duct tape friendly. Two areas are
likely to tear first: 1. Tent floor. Tent should be on a hillside but level, with
tarp under floor, and layers of cardboard inside tent over flooring for insulation.
Expect deterioration of floor cardboard and renew if damp or issues arise.
2. Mesh, it tears easily, and you need to respect that. You want room for
stuff. Higher tents have contain more air to warm (heat rises and bleeds fast),
there's wind resistence, so you need a shed shelter over it with sides facing
an expected weather frontage. Logs in a three side layer work and better hold
exterior tarp. It won't have to be waterproof but it must blunt wind chill / speed.
Digging into hillside requires wall support to avoid untimely burial. Log steps
with hammered pegs work. Double weather walls and roofing need vented air
space to vent moisture. Tents are designed as temporary shelter. You'd better
be filling sandbags to build better. Build around your tent. Work around the
braced exterior of stacked log grid. Focus on foot diameter logs, hand saw,
saw file, file oil, rags, hand winch, nylon sling lengths for log tow and hoist.
Tree nails. Claw hammer. Shovel. You won't have something. Find ruins
you can salvage. Dead cars to strip. You want a location with water that if
frozen you can still access. A USA hermit was arrested in 2013 and he
said that after a half-lifetime of being totally self-sufficient the only thing left
of personal property were prescription eye-glasses. Don't be a hermit. Using
Google Earth it wasn't hard to find a limestone grotto for boys in the UK to
sleep in and they were half-planet distant. Maybe you can do better in a chair.
I've seen the best tents money can buy blown into the night off mountains.
There are rags of those that were torn apart when ground placement held
on some of my uphill climb. I've had a tent in-hand drag me over icy stone.
I suggest a mid-level tent like Coleman, cheap, well-made. Dome with rain
fly, window flaps, with zippered mesh bug protection and portal closures.
You absolutely must apply seam sealant on all exposed interior stitching.
Stand tent turned inside out to seam seal if possible as you can't sleep
with the fire hazard and toxic odor. When dry sealant is your best friend.
Avoid fouling zipper teeth with sealant. Have extra sealer for repair. Duct
tape also for short-term patching; cold isn't duct tape friendly. Two areas are
likely to tear first: 1. Tent floor. Tent should be on a hillside but level, with
tarp under floor, and layers of cardboard inside tent over flooring for insulation.
Expect deterioration of floor cardboard and renew if damp or issues arise.
2. Mesh, it tears easily, and you need to respect that. You want room for
stuff. Higher tents have contain more air to warm (heat rises and bleeds fast),
there's wind resistence, so you need a shed shelter over it with sides facing
an expected weather frontage. Logs in a three side layer work and better hold
exterior tarp. It won't have to be waterproof but it must blunt wind chill / speed.
Digging into hillside requires wall support to avoid untimely burial. Log steps
with hammered pegs work. Double weather walls and roofing need vented air
space to vent moisture. Tents are designed as temporary shelter. You'd better
be filling sandbags to build better. Build around your tent. Work around the
braced exterior of stacked log grid. Focus on foot diameter logs, hand saw,
saw file, file oil, rags, hand winch, nylon sling lengths for log tow and hoist.
Tree nails. Claw hammer. Shovel. You won't have something. Find ruins
you can salvage. Dead cars to strip. You want a location with water that if
frozen you can still access. A USA hermit was arrested in 2013 and he
said that after a half-lifetime of being totally self-sufficient the only thing left
of personal property were prescription eye-glasses. Don't be a hermit. Using
Google Earth it wasn't hard to find a limestone grotto for boys in the UK to
sleep in and they were half-planet distant. Maybe you can do better in a chair.
Ways to give my tent a bit of heat (safely)? while camping?
spcexcel
Living in Arizona, I struggle with a very limited camping season. Given the fact that the summer (May through September, in my opinion) is almost un-liveably hot, you might THINK that October-April (which is very nice, like paradise) would be a great camping season.
Well in a way, it is...the question is, where?
So at regular altitude, Arizona is great starting right now. The problem is that it's no fun camping anywhere that altitude is like that. (i.e. - lakes, waters, rivers, fishing, woods, pine trees........) for the most part the fun places in Arizona start getting cold really fast in October.
Right now I want to go camping in Payson. In my tent it will be questionable as to temperature. Of course we have raised mattresses and good sleeping bags, but I'm starting to want to branch out and get more creative in terms of generating heat. (without buying an RV)
Any suggestions for products I may not know about, that will generate some heat inside my simple, 6-person dome tent.
Of course, I'm looking for something that burns little or no oxygen so that we don't just "die comfortably".
that's good information but man i hate to spend again on a tent, just had bought myself a nice big dome one. however i have also found out there are $50 Coleman Catalytic Heaters - that can be safely run in a tent - yay !!
Hmmm.. definitely would not agree with your assessment of catalytic heaters, Coleman specifically markets ALL of them for use in indoor tents, suggesting you leave a very small opening (6") of air. Yes it burns oxygen, but very little compared to flames ...
and that's the whole point, to have it right next to your body practically. Get the tent good and warm, then turn it off and go to sleep.
Answer
Get yourself a cabin tent that allows the use of a stove in it, these are vented so that smoke and gases exit the tent through the stove chimney and heat is radiated throughout the tent. There are tent furnaces as well but these require electrical power, and if you need electrical power you might as well use an electric heater. Here is a link with winter camping info,
http://www.princeton.edu/~oa/winter/wintcamp.shtml
@added
Wrong on the catalytic heater. Read the owners manual "the fine print" it tells you it produces carbon monoxide gas which can kill you, If you can get your tent ventilation good enough to be safe enough to use the heater than you will have to stand over the heater to get any use out of it. Believe me they are just too dangerous to use in a tent.
Get yourself a cabin tent that allows the use of a stove in it, these are vented so that smoke and gases exit the tent through the stove chimney and heat is radiated throughout the tent. There are tent furnaces as well but these require electrical power, and if you need electrical power you might as well use an electric heater. Here is a link with winter camping info,
http://www.princeton.edu/~oa/winter/wintcamp.shtml
@added
Wrong on the catalytic heater. Read the owners manual "the fine print" it tells you it produces carbon monoxide gas which can kill you, If you can get your tent ventilation good enough to be safe enough to use the heater than you will have to stand over the heater to get any use out of it. Believe me they are just too dangerous to use in a tent.
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